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    That ton of added stuff results in very different methodology and concepts between the two. The universal consensus in my search on the subject (just from wondering where C still applies these days) is that C++ is an easier and less convoluted language for beginners, and that the concepts involved in programming with either differ greatly:


    http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/general/134/
    It boils down to the need to have tools to allow OOP -- Object Oriented Programming. In OOP the primary focus is on the data, rather than on the methods used to manipulate it. The OOP approach of C++, in other words, is a quite different programming philosophy from the function centred approach of C.

    All this means that whether you know C or not is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, knowing C is good because it means you already know alot of the basics which have transfered over to C++. On the other hand, knowing C is bad because it is uses an entirely different, non-OOP approach to programming and so teaches you what are "bad habits" from an OOP perspective.

    I'd say, however, that for a person who doesn't already know C, it makes very little sense to first learn C and THEN try to learn C++. Yes a knowledge of C will give you certain basics which are useful to know -- but if you're starting from scratch, you'll learn those basics just as well if you begin with C++.


    http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/beginner/34078/

    Starting with C won't help you learn C++. If anything it will only make it harder to learn C++ because you'll have to "unlearn" a lot of things C will teach you.
    Learning C gets you started doing things you shouldn't do in C++. Like use char arrays, malloc, printf, macros, etc, etc.

    C++ has superior substitutes to all those things that are easier to use and harder to screw up. You're better off just starting with C++.
    And I can't think of a time where I've ever had to use variable arguments. That probably could be an example of something C teaches you that you'll probably have to unlearn for C++.
    C teaches an entirely different style of coding. Most of it is considered bad practice in C++
    Yes C and C++ share syntax, but using the languages is done very differently. C++ is more than just "C with classes". Coding effectively in C++ takes a completely different mindset than coding effectively in C. And learning the mindset of one does not prepare you to learn the mindset of the other.

    Good C coders can make terrible C++ coders and vice versa.
    I started with C++, and then learned the C standard library via the C++ headers that make them accessible. Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment, reinventing the wheel several times over, but I love C more than C++.

    I'd recommend starting with C++ simply because it is easier for beginners. Both C and C++ have their negative points (pointers and template hell, respectively), but as the creator of C++ would say: "C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot; C++ makes it harder, but when you do it blows your whole leg off."
    Last edited by Delicieuxz; 08-25-2012 at 09:45 AM.

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